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The road to the Taupo Hobby Expo (NZ) (Final Update)

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The road to the Taupo Hobby Expo (NZ) (Final Update)

Postby Rusty » Tue May 31, 2011 6:52 pm

Hi guys,

Well after being inspired



I have decided to finally get around to painting my 4 small Aeronef Fleets.

My plan is in 7 weeks to have the following done:

Paint all four fleets (around 45 ships total)
Create a 6ft x 4ft terrain board with terrain

So what better way to get motivated than to keep a log right here on Brigade Models.

So I have until July 21 to achieve this.

Stay Tuned
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The plan so far........

Postby Rusty » Wed Jun 01, 2011 4:59 am

Ok, so the first choice I have to make is the landscape. Now I could keep it simple, ocean with Islands. But I am after something a little different. So here is your chance to have some input. As I don't know the sort of landscape the nefs fought over.

Table Size at the moment will be 4ft x 4ft. Hoping to have enough time to extend it out to 6ft x 4ft or 5ft x 3ft.

I will be using 1ft x 1ft 9mm MDF tiles. By using the 9mm is keeps the weight down a little. Using the 1ft x 1ft tiles gives me the flexability to change on the fly

Here are the three options:

Ocean Engagement with Islands
or
1/3 Coast Line & 2/3 Water with Islands
or
Land with roads, rivers and the rest of it

I will be handmaking a lot of this terrain. I won't comprimise speed for quality as I want it to look good.


So next on the agenda, is the fleets:

Main British Fleet
Allied Support from USA
vs
Main French Fleet
Allied Support from Turkey

I will post a list of the Ships that will be available for the selection, as the fleets are only small so I am limited. I think its something like 15 French / United Kingdom nefs and 8 USA/Turkey so 23 nefs per side.

Money permiting I am hoping to add a Flagship to each side as the largest nef is a Battlecruiser for the French (British is a cruiser I think). So ideally a Carrier with a small escort for the British / French (Geez Tony the things your website makes me do :lol: ). So the ship count may just break 50+ inc Aircraft.


More to come (Including the photo's)
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Postby NickH » Wed Jun 01, 2011 6:17 am

Tiles can be problematic to get right :(
If you have any plans to make your table bigger than 2x2 then I suggest going for at least 2x1 tiles as it halve the number of tiles you have to carry and the fewer joints in the final result.

Warping can be a problem with thin tiles.
If you want to reduce weight then you could try a sandwich of thin plywood (or even heavy card) and 1" foam, stick them together with PVA, weighted with a lot of books overnight, make sure you do stick both sides at the same time.

The other way is to use the clip-together (jigsaw type interlock) foam exercise mats as a base to give you a smooth surface (helps hide table edges) with a terrain cloth on top. This is much easier to store and transport.
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Postby Rusty » Wed Jun 01, 2011 9:42 am

Thanks for the reply Nick, Storage is a problem for me so by making the 1ft x 1ft tiles it is easier to store them.

I am hoping that the 9mm thickness wont warp but time will tell.

A good point about the joins, this could take away from the overall look, and something I have considered.

Unfortunatelly because I do not have the luxury of having a permanent setup i have to look at the portability.

Good suggestion about the jigsaw foam, I have seen something like that here so I will look into it.
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Postby NickH » Wed Jun 01, 2011 10:18 am

This is the foam I mean
Image

More info here
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Postby Rusty » Wed Jun 01, 2011 10:19 am

O.k as promised here is the fleet list for the Allies:

Great Britain

Battleship Class

1 x Benbow Class Battleship

Cruiser Class

1 x Rawalpindi Class Colonial Cruiser

Patrol Class

3 x Osprey Class Patrol Nefs
3 x Cossack Class Patrol Nefs

Destroyer Class

1 x Arethusa Class Destroyer

Gunboat Class

3 x Abingdon Class Gunboat


USA

Battleship Class

1 x Lincoln Class Battleship

Cruiser Class

1 x Baton Rouge Class Cruiser

Frigate Class

3 x Saginaw Class Frigate
4 x Decatur Class Frigate

Destroyer Class

1 x Brooklyn Class Destroyer

Torpedo Class

3 x Hunley Torpedo Nefs

Patrol Class

1 x Tallahasee Class Patrol Nef
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Postby Rusty » Wed Jun 01, 2011 10:38 am

And now the French / Turkey Fleet List:

France

BattleCruiser Class

1 x Charlamagne Class Battlecruiser

Cruiser Class

1 x Formidabile Class Lt Cruiser

Patrol Class

3 x Perigeaux Patrol Nefs

Destroyer Class

1 x Regnault Class Destroyer
3 x Vailante Class Destroyer

Torpedo Class

3 x Descartes Class Torpedo Destoryer


Turkey

Battleship Class

1 x Abdul Aziz Class Battleship

Destroyer Class

2 x Assari Shevket Class Dig Destroyer

Patrol Class

3 x Keyk Class Patrol Class

Frigate Class

3 x Gemlik Class Frigate


Well those are the fleets that I have, as I say money and time permitting I want to add some more to the fleets.[/i]
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Postby jonboy » Wed Jun 01, 2011 11:30 am

Hi Rusty,

Good luck with the project and many thanks for the comments re the Salute game, depending on your time available for the project having done the game I would suggest a few options.

Try to make the boards as as large as is feasibly possible in terms of storage, cutting down on the number of joining lines across the table will improve the look no end. I would suggest something like 12 mm MDF, to avoid any potential warping when painting, as i found out doing the islands, 3 mm warps like mad.The added weight will help in terms of stability, especially if u go the 1ft sq route, people leaning across and placing a hand on the boards may overturn them. If time is a factor maybe going the terrain mat route could be an option, providing more time to focus on the fleets.


[/url]http://www.corseceng.com/fabric-mats/ocean/


A very quick way of doing the islands is to use rolled up newspaper taped down onto your baseboard with parcel tape. Avoids using water and warping and you can create rolling terrain in a fraction of the time. Would strongly suggest using cheap 1-2 mm acrylic/ Perspex sheet cut out with a jigsaw for the islands as a way round any future warping while painting.

For mountains I used discarded wooden stumps from woodland nearby, luckily there had been a major run of forestry work just when i needed them,otherwise cork of eBay is a another alternative.

Hope some of the above is of use, good luck and look forward to seeing the results

Cheers jon
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Postby Rusty » Wed Jun 01, 2011 7:42 pm

Hi Jon,

Thanks for your advise, the feeling I am getting so far if I am to make this board the less joins the better. O.K so looking at the time frame, and considering the ships I have I think for now I may look at reducing the table size down to a 4ft x 4ft.

This will allow me to only use 4 tiles at 2ft x 2ft. Just waiting to hear about what thickness MDF I can my hands on. Hoping 18mm.

Since I have my 1ft x 1ft squares I will look at glueing these together to add an extra 4ft x 1ft area if time permits. This will increase the table to 5ft x 4ft.

So an area of 4ft x 4ft will probably be ocean, the extra 4ft x 1ft will add a coastline of some sorts.

Can see this one going down well with the wife :roll:

I am still stumped about the way you do the islands. Do you roll the paper up, tape it down and then apply flock?


So now the question I have, do the fleets look o.k? If you have a suggestion about a way to add / improve the existing fleets, be it historical (based on modern counterpart) or just for balance.

I look forward to anyones input on possible ways to add to the 4 fleets.

Thanks and stay tuned

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The Start of the Fleets

Postby Rusty » Thu Jun 02, 2011 9:47 am

Well, just a small photo or two tonight. The overall shot of the 4 fleets getting ready for de-flashing.

Not much to look at now, but just wait.

So the French & Turkey Fleets


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Followed by Great Britain & USA


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Postby jonboy » Fri Jun 03, 2011 10:50 pm

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Postby Rusty » Fri Jun 03, 2011 11:26 pm

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Postby Rusty » Thu Jun 09, 2011 4:09 am

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Postby Rusty » Fri Jun 10, 2011 8:26 am

Well, as promised here is the first of 12 British Aeronef's:


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Now to be honest, I don't have the best set up for taking photos, and it does not do the model justice. If you hold the model around 1ft away it really looks better than my macro shot.

And just so you can see the effort that went into the deck panels:


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Feedback welcome good or bad.

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Postby jonboy » Fri Jun 10, 2011 10:08 pm

In awe sir...... simply couldn't get my head round painting individual planking at 1/1200..my eyes hurt just thinking about it

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