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Zophiel

Joined: 04 Apr 2006 Posts: 401 Location: 40°6'12"N, 74°51'5"W
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Posted: Thu Dec 21, 2006 1:53 am Post subject: Aeronef World Map Project |
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In the topic called Website Resources (http://www.brigademodels.co.uk/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=247), I mentioned starting a rather large world map based on a factual representation of the planet in 1910.
I've finished tracing the borders of the four South American nations for which there are Nefs. In this post, I'm asking for opinions about the following nations:
Uruguay
Paraguay
Bolivia
Ecuador
Venezuela
Acre — technically part of Brazil
The Falkland Islands, Trinidad/Tobago, Guyana, Suriname and French Guiana will be shown as European possessions. _________________ Mens regnum bona possidet
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Tas

Joined: 14 Aug 2005 Posts: 281 Location: Victoria, Australia
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Posted: Thu Dec 21, 2006 3:17 am Post subject: |
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Sounds very cool - I look forward to seeing how it pans out!
Sadly though, South America has never been an area of knowledge or expertise for me so I'll leave your question for others to answer _________________ Tas
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Zophiel

Joined: 04 Apr 2006 Posts: 401 Location: 40°6'12"N, 74°51'5"W
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Posted: Thu Dec 21, 2006 10:11 pm Post subject: |
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Here's a color study.
Next I have to play with some of the borders and make each layer a transparency. And there are a few missing islands. _________________ Mens regnum bona possidet
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Zophiel

Joined: 04 Apr 2006 Posts: 401 Location: 40°6'12"N, 74°51'5"W
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Posted: Fri Dec 22, 2006 2:47 am Post subject: |
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At 600 pixels width, these test images are 41.58% of the dimensions of the working document.
In this image, I've adjusted most of the colors - refined the coastal borders and begun the a layer for precise internal boundaries. You'll notice that Turkey still retains some of the later-period territory of the Ottoman Empire. This is a more artistic choice than a historical one
— and, after Anarchists, my favorite fleet is the one that flies this
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Zophiel

Joined: 04 Apr 2006 Posts: 401 Location: 40°6'12"N, 74°51'5"W
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Posted: Fri Dec 22, 2006 5:47 am Post subject: |
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There's no image update but I've finished the interior border refinement.
There are very few nations on Nef-Earth that do not have some Nef or Dig in their skies (if, in some instances, by the presence of a European power). These areas are shown in grey in the most recent color update.
It would seem reasonable to assume that the Spanish-American War resulted in Spain being prohibited from constructing a Nef fleet. This would account for the absence of Nef in Mexico and (roughly) half of Latin America.
The Russian and Japanese interests in Manchuria and European presence in southern China may explain China's lack of Nef. French and British control to the east and west of Siam tell a similar story.
My knowledge of the period leaves me a bit unprepared to speak about Scandinavia and Portugal.
The new question is, as these are the borders of the real world in 1910, what modifications would the history of Aeronef suggest? _________________ Mens regnum bona possidet
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Zophiel

Joined: 04 Apr 2006 Posts: 401 Location: 40°6'12"N, 74°51'5"W
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Posted: Fri Dec 22, 2006 9:27 pm Post subject: |
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The interior borders are finished (including Tibet and Mongolia). Unless someone is particularly interested in them, I think I'll leave the borders of French and British Africa undisplayed. They were not of much consequence in the period (imo). For similar reasons, I'd like to propose that the northern parts of South America simply be referred to as Gran Columbia. And I'll still need to figure out a color scheme for Peru, Argentina, Brazil, and Chile — but...
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Zophiel

Joined: 04 Apr 2006 Posts: 401 Location: 40°6'12"N, 74°51'5"W
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Posted: Sun Dec 24, 2006 1:32 am Post subject: |
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I may pretty this up a bit and add some rivers and text, but...
Merry Christmas _________________ Mens regnum bona possidet
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Go0gleplex
Joined: 20 Dec 2005 Posts: 84 Location: Keizer, OR
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Posted: Sun Dec 24, 2006 5:27 am Post subject: |
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Looks really nice Zoph...but you need to include a map key for the colors.  _________________ I admit it! I'm a greedy ship-a-holic...next fleet please! |
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Zophiel

Joined: 04 Apr 2006 Posts: 401 Location: 40°6'12"N, 74°51'5"W
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Posted: Sun Dec 24, 2006 3:52 pm Post subject: |
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The nations listed at the left are in the same order as on Brigade's site. I'm going to have to change a few colors (Austro-Hungary and Japan appear to be one territory — Switzerland appears to claim Antarctica). Portuguese and Danish lands are now shown in the Neutral color.
The borders within Gran Columbia and Benelux have been added. This means I'll probably have to differentiate Bolivia from Paraguay — and show Nepal and Bhutan perhaps. German and French borders need to change.
But I'd still rather not include borders French and British Africa.
The possibility of rivers now seems unlikely, as the distortion of source-maps to the working document make them near to useless.
I'm nearly finished with this project unless someone would like to comment on the Aeronef Timeline. The next layer (and update) is likely to show at least ten of the world's largest cities. There may also be an Anarchist mention.
And in case anyone is interested, the fonts so far used are: Harrington, Watson, and Vintage. Each of these is available for free (at least for Mac computers) after a Google search or two. _________________ Mens regnum bona possidet
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Zophiel

Joined: 04 Apr 2006 Posts: 401 Location: 40°6'12"N, 74°51'5"W
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Posted: Fri Dec 29, 2006 2:44 am Post subject: |
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It seemed a little foolish to me if I didn't make a Mars map:
Although not precisely accurate (in terms of width) the scaled-down image here is roughly true to the difference between Earth and Mars (with reference to circumference).
The territories shown represent the French, British, and German possessions along with the Auroræ, Syrtis, and Olympian (Tharsis) factions of the natives. There will be a key in a later version but the colors (respective of the above order) are: Blue, Red, Green, Orange, Purple, and Yellow.
The bold red line marks the maximum upper limit of the Southern Sea, if anyone wants to include that. It is mentioned in the Aeronef rules but not entirely accurate when looking at "sea level" for Mars.
In my view, a map of VSF Mars without canals is incomplete. I've already started working on a layer for that. _________________ Mens regnum bona possidet
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Tas

Joined: 14 Aug 2005 Posts: 281 Location: Victoria, Australia
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Posted: Sat Dec 30, 2006 12:00 am Post subject: |
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Canals are indeed essential!
What is the distribution of Martian land betwene Empires based on?
Next should be Venus I think!
Keep up the good work old Boy!  _________________ Tas
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Zophiel

Joined: 04 Apr 2006 Posts: 401 Location: 40°6'12"N, 74°51'5"W
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Posted: Sat Dec 30, 2006 12:57 am Post subject: |
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| Tas wrote: | | What is the distribution of Martian land... |
In the two Aeronef books, only three factions are named. Fortunately for those factions the true Martian sea level did leave their regions above water.
Only three European powers are named and of them, just two are said to be in direct conflict. I decided these had to border each other. British forces (I believe this is correct) had a famous encounter near the city of Xanthe. That set the general location for their settlements.
Most "fans of Mars" seem to view Valles Marineris as prime real estate. This seemed to suggest that the French and British conflict on the Red Planet might be over that territory.
The actual borders are based on specific land features such as valleys and ridges. _________________ Mens regnum bona possidet
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Tas

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Posted: Sat Dec 30, 2006 5:06 am Post subject: |
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Neat - so you havent used any of the territorial notes from Space:1889 then? the "Konklin's Atlas" book was quite good! _________________ Tas
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Zophiel

Joined: 04 Apr 2006 Posts: 401 Location: 40°6'12"N, 74°51'5"W
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Posted: Sat Dec 30, 2006 4:37 pm Post subject: |
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Ironically, Conklin's Atlas of the Worlds by Frank Chadwick; is the only piece of the Space 1889 source material I don't yet own. Even if I did, I suspect I'd still have struck out on my own in designing Mars. When a factual reference is available for my artistic endeavors, I at least try to let it inform my work.
I have to wonder now — do the Olympian (Tharsis), Auroræn, and Syrtis region Martians each have different Nef designs or are they mainly differentiated by paint schemes and flags? _________________ Mens regnum bona possidet
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Tas

Joined: 14 Aug 2005 Posts: 281 Location: Victoria, Australia
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Posted: Sun Dec 31, 2006 2:07 am Post subject: |
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| I dunno... I always thought Martian Nef deisgns were kind of generic, but each would be individual with no mass industry |
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